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Getting Inside by boxingSHK

Subject: Techniques for getting inside
From: boxingSHK
Date: 29-Sep-00 | 03:41 PM

Not being able to get inside of a taller opponent is pretty frustrating, but it's not that difficult to get inside. The first thing to remember is to punch your way in. By this, I mean doubling or tripling up on your jab while moving in. When you do this, you're forcing him to defend himself, instead of teeing off while you're trying to get into range. The next thing I reccomend is trying to come in at an angle. To often guys try to go straight in, and get their head knocked off. It's much easier to see someone coming in if they're coming straight ahead rather than coming in from the side. Another thing to think about is if your opponent moves straight back. If he moves to the side, he's probably going to be harder to get inside on. But if he moves straight back, he's eventually going to have nowhere else to go, because his back will be to the ropes. Work on slipping punches, because if you can slip a punch, you've got a much greater chance of being able to get inside on a taller opponent. Being shorter isn't always a disadvantage. If your opponent doesn't know how to use his reach advantage, (if he's squaring his shoulders up, etc.) it might even be better to be shorter. If you remember these things, slipping, coming in at angles, and punching your way in, you'll have a much greater chance of getting inside.


Subject: RE: INFO
From: Rastus
Date: 29-Sep-00 | 08:09 PM

Great advice!

The one aspect I'd add is effective pressure. If you follow a guy around, you have little chance of getting in. If you rush in too fast, you don't have much time to punch and you're tied up or spun immediately.

What you can do is apply effective pressure. Use all the tools boxingSHK described above, but you'll put pressure on your opponent, forcing him to do something, off of which you can slip/counter/get inside.

I've told this story before, but Jack Johnson, the turn of the century heavyweight champ would say that he'd jab and pressure a man, forcing him to attack, from which he'd counter. The jab and pressure were designed to make the man try something, on which you're poised to counter.

Instead of you're going inside on him, force him to come to you! Motions is relative, and all that matters is your bodies get closer, you to him or him to you.

Another way is to cut of the ring and go into him when his back's against the ropes or, better yet, in the corner. There, it's harder to move away from you.


Subject: RE: INFO
From: John Buckley
Date: 01-Oct-00 | 12:46 AM

You guys should get together and write a book you are both much better than I at explaining how to perform techniques I really appreciate all your threads. I have nothing new to add to this just what you guys said above you can't get inside without jabbing it is the most important punch in boxing ,to many guys just try to walk in and do their work once they are there and secondly you always see one guy just following another around the ring you must jab and cut the ring off move him the way you need him to go with your jab.


Subject: RE: INFO
From: Rastus
Date: 01-Oct-00 | 03:04 AM

John:

I may write alot of words, but each of yours hold more weight than mine. Quite frankly, I think sometimes that I'm overstepping my bounds when I write with such authority, when I know that you and Roberto are the real pros.

I think of Ray Arcel and Freddie Mills, Roberto Duran's corner in his heyday. Freddie was a pro fighter, Ray Arcel never laced on a glove. Both had their place in Roberto's corner.

You're the guy in the ring, and believe me - each post you write all of us read closely, and respect it as the experienced, no nonsense clarity it is.


Subject: RE: INFO
From: boxingSHK
Date: 01-Oct-00 | 06:25 AM

There's so much that can be said for having been there and done that. I personally can't say I've been there or done that. I had amateur fights, but not a single pro one. I made up my mind about two years ago that I wanted to be a trainer. I probably knew it from the beginning, but you always put off the inevitable. The regret I have, is that when it comes down to it, and my fighter is in that 12th round, will I truly be able to understand what he's going through, because I haven't been there? Sure, I've made it into the third round of an amateur fight, but that's like comparing the Gunfight at the OK Corrall, to World War II. So there are things that can be explained better by the people that have been there and done that, if you know what I mean. I live in Indiana. It's not exactly the boxing mecca of the world. I need to learn what I can, from whoever I can. So this forum is a big plus for me. I can let people know what I know, and I can learn from them. Eventually, I may have to move to New York, or a Las Vegas. It's a dilemma I face. I talked to a boxing friend of mine out in New York about it, and we both came to the conclusion that it would take probably 25 years in Indiana, to learn what you could learn in 5 in New York. Sorry for rambling. But that's why I post. So hopefully I can make the 25 years that it takes in Indiana to learn what you can in 5 in New York a little bit closer.




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